Duration: 19:43

In the June edition of the New Humanist podcast, editor Caspar Melville and news editor Paul Sims bring you extended interviews with two of the contributors to the May/June issue of the magazine.

We speak to writer and broadcaster Kenan Malik about Sam Harris's new book The Moral Landscape: How How Science Can Determine Human Values (1:01). Malik critiques Harris's assertion that questions of morality can be settled with reference to science, particularly neuroscience, and asseses the case for the use of torture in the fight against terrorism, something Harris has been known to defend in his writing.

Next, there's an interview with human rights campaigner Richard Wilson, who in our current issue investigates the work of African humanists facing down the perpetrators of false witchhunts in Nigeria and Malawi. (9:57) What are the motivations behind accusations that women and children are practising witchcraft, and what are campaigners doing to prevent such persecution?

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